FootScoot
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Post by FootScoot on Jan 25, 2010 11:39:16 GMT -5
I presently have a rear drum brake, but was wondering if there is a way to convert to a rear disc brake setup? I think disc is easier work on, and is more pleasing to the eye.
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Post by Rocketdog on Jan 25, 2010 19:24:41 GMT -5
Your going to have to find a rear wheel set up for disk, to start with. Not an easy thing. And there is probably more to it than that Foot. I think they use a different brace, on the right side. You can do it, but it will take some scrounging.
RD
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Post by FootScoot on Jan 25, 2010 23:05:18 GMT -5
I guess I would be better off just leaving it alone then. If it ain't broke don't fix it. ;D
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jan 29, 2010 3:04:11 GMT -5
You might check eBay often. Once in a while, you can find a disk-brake wheel, or even an entire swing-arm with caliper and wheel/disk combo for a fraction of the cost of new parts. They are not common, but they do show up (both front AND rear setups). Sometimes a scoot gets wrecked, or a stolen one gets found and sold for parts, so it's always worth a look-see! There are always unusual parts floating around, so it pays to check... I got a nice CVT cover to "Swiss-cheese" for only $10 a while back, and such bargains are out there.
My '07 Xingyue 150 came with the rear disk, and it actually does work better than the drum. The drum is not bad though (heck, that's all we had when I was young...) so unless you can find a bargain, I'd stick with it. Find a bargain though, and you can have a nice upgrade.
Ride safe!
Leo in Texas
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Post by FootScoot on Jan 29, 2010 15:38:10 GMT -5
Thanks Leo. I'll give ebay a try. I might get lucky. Years ago that's all the brakes there was, good ol' drums, and they worked fairly well.
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jan 30, 2010 4:28:43 GMT -5
Footscoot,
Drum brake memories... Ah, the great right-hand grip we developed back then, stopping a Harley dresser with its mini-bike-style cable-operated small front brake! Above 65 mph, you had better find an "escape route" and forget stopping altogether!
But the old scooters stopped fine from the 50 - 55 they would go. These modern scooters have MARVELOUS brakes compared with what I got used to nearly 50 years ago!
Consider that a new Cushman, Vespa or Lambretta cost around $800 in the late fifties. That's $8,000 in today's money. A new Chinese 150 is around $1,000 today. That's about $100 in fifties' money. PRETTY GOOD DEAL I'D SAY!
Some things actually ARE better than they were "back in the day" LOL!
And, with the "twist n' go" scoots with both brakes on the bars, we get to build up BOTH hands!
Gotta love it!
Leo
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Post by FootScoot on Jan 30, 2010 8:57:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I remember those drum brakes I had on a '72 Kawasaki 350 triple. It bordered on nightmarish slowing down from 70-80 mph. Once they got good and hot, they were almost nonexcistent. That'll put the fear in ya real quick. ;D
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Post by Rebel on Jan 30, 2010 13:22:43 GMT -5
Check out a scooter with a rear disk, I'm wondering if there is a difference in the axle, and the casting on the casing.
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Post by FootScoot on Jan 30, 2010 19:10:33 GMT -5
I checked one out yesterday, and the disc brake casing is different from the drum brake one. I guess I'll just let it lay. Besides the front does most of the stopping.
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Post by Rocketdog on Feb 3, 2010 19:48:19 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry about it Foot. As you said, or someone did, it's the front brake that does most of the stopping. I only use the back drum in gravel and hardly ever on the street.
RD
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Post by Rebel on Feb 4, 2010 13:12:41 GMT -5
I think back on all those motorcycles I had that were drum brakes front and rear, never gave it one thought about not having good brakes, they worked well.
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Post by oldchopperguy on Feb 5, 2010 10:02:07 GMT -5
Hey Rebel...
Those front and rear drum brakes didn't REALLY work all that well... They just worked better than our brains did, at that early age! Ain't youth GRAND?
Nah...
I'm reminscing about 1962, and my first bike, a '57 full-dress pan-head with leather bags and all. Near 900 lbs, and mechanical drum brakes front and rear. Coming home from the dealer, I was doing 70 mph on a 2-lane (no speed limit then) and a light turned red WAY down the road. I stomped and squeezed for all I was worth, and still blew through it at better than 50... Thank God, for NO cross traffic...
I still love those old deathtraps anyway!
Leo
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Post by FootScoot on Feb 5, 2010 15:56:18 GMT -5
Hey Rebel...Those front and rear drum brakes didn't REALLY work all that well... They just worked better than our brains did, at that early age! Ain't youth GRAND? Nah...I'm reminscing about 1962, and my first bike, a '57 full-dress pan-head with leather bags and all. Near 900 lbs, and mechanical drum brakes front and rear. Coming home from the dealer, I was doing 70 mph on a 2-lane (no speed limit then) and a light turned red WAY down the road. I stomped and squeezed for all I was worth, and still blew through it at better than 50... Thank God, for NO cross traffic... I still love those old deathtraps anyway!Leo That would definitely call for a change of the old skivvies. ;D
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Post by Rebel on Feb 8, 2010 13:02:58 GMT -5
Hey Rebel...Those front and rear drum brakes didn't REALLY work all that well... They just worked better than our brains did, at that early age! Ain't youth GRAND? Nah...I'm reminscing about 1962, and my first bike, a '57 full-dress pan-head with leather bags and all. Near 900 lbs, and mechanical drum brakes front and rear. Coming home from the dealer, I was doing 70 mph on a 2-lane (no speed limit then) and a light turned red WAY down the road. I stomped and squeezed for all I was worth, and still blew through it at better than 50... Thank God, for NO cross traffic... I still love those old deathtraps anyway!Leo Well, I never got to ride a Harley, just Honda's and a friends Yamaha. I could stop those.
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Post by kuzikood on Feb 15, 2010 11:31:30 GMT -5
aint nothin wrong with drum brakes as long as they are adjusted properly and you stay outta deep water .......... lol my newest project is a 63 corvair monza convertible guess what 4 wheel drum brakes! lol
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