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Post by arcanum70 on Nov 20, 2013 17:04:32 GMT -5
Not to beat a dead horse. Want to look at a NHS that actually works, stop looking to Canada (I can relate some horror stories from dispatchers from back when I was leased to a Canadian company), England, Australia. Look to Taiwan.
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Post by Rebel on Nov 21, 2013 1:00:29 GMT -5
I don't think Obama Care is from the Canadian model.
I have not been in favor of it but I have to say the California version has some good features. Our version of Medicaid will be grown to absorb more people and the California Care web page was actually done well. The insurance pool on California Care has some very attractive plans at a very cheap price. The main problem I see is that people will not be happy with a traditional insurance that requires a copay and deductible, the patients I see do not want to pay for anything.
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Post by arcanum70 on Nov 21, 2013 1:35:47 GMT -5
If yours is actually affordable and you can sign up you're lucky. Here in Vermont we are the fifth most expensive "exchange" in the country, with two choices...Blue Cross/Blue Shield and MVP. They worked a deal with the state so that they are our only choices, so the prices are outrageous.
As to signing up, well, good luck with that too. The site has been broken from the beginning and our Governor does nothing but make excuses but isn't pushing hard for a solution. He bumped the enroll date back a bit, but refuses to do anything to force a fix.
Personally I think that Obamacare is an abomination. It is a law authored by lobbyists for the insurance companies that forces us to buy their product. Had the gun or auto or any other industry done this, everyone that is embracing Obamacare would (rightly) have their panties in a bunch and would be taking to the streets.
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Post by daddue11 on Nov 21, 2013 12:34:49 GMT -5
Oh I believe ya Rebel ,but I'm saying What happened to all the politicians that touted about being devout Christians and they were the majority back when most of the tide started turning the wrong way , I blame the so- called CHRISTIAN leaders that went for the MONEY vote instead of the MORAL vote. I was related to a lady that everyone thought was a saint and the finest Christian ever lived. This saintly lady told me that she would not support any candidate that was against abortion because they were just trying to hold women and womens rights down. I wonder how many of her offspring were murdered in the womb for womens rights.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 4:12:46 GMT -5
Not to beat a dead horse. Want to look at a NHS that actually works, stop looking to Canada (I can relate some horror stories from dispatchers from back when I was leased to a Canadian company), England, Australia. Look to Taiwan.
no matter what anyone says the facts are these
Taiwan with a 20 dollar co pay insures to complete care every single citizen in the country and their doctors make every bit as much money as ours-------------how?
they have no insurance vampires sucking the blood out of the system.
as for Mike Moore, George Lucus better hire him quick, cause he did a great special effects job of faking doctors standing before congress confessing they kill people every month for lack of health care.
he also faked insurance adjustor's before congress saying they went from 25,000 a year to 200,000 a year after showing they would use loop holes to cut off care to folks who needed high cost medical care, and also faked the congress men who make fortunes in stock dividends from this who don't give a crap.
and never forget they never find those loop holes till you get sick.
No refunds either if they dump you
lets get to the real problem here, Americans have a big needle stuck in their arm, and the drug is blind pride, we have become such empty of soul beings, so addicted to false pride we will defend anything we do and kill the source of drug shut off for reminding us we have lost the only thing that keeps us safe,
Self Criticism.
gosh were perfect,
I pay to get free health care every time i pay my taxes.
Nat. health care is the first defense against a country falling apart.
case in point-
We have the highest number of raped women who never heal because of lack of care of any modern nation in the world, the raging spawn of these mothers are shooting up schools and company's every dam week.
these kids can't think, feel empathy or even understand a simple poem and are built from birth to raise horror, Bram Stoker was molested by his raped mother, so he wrote about love that makes you bleed-vampires.
his buddy H P love Craft who was locked in a closet by his raped mom wrote the same trash to vent his rage against women.
These freakish kids have destroyed our police forces, military operations around the world and love of the normal.
Our movie industry is pumping out the same trash so fast I have almost stopped watching new movies.
Germany learned the hardest way, the biggest threat to a country is its own abused children and as a result refuse to import all most any thing as it may leave a family without a job and produce a sicko kid.
Japan has as well made "motherhood" its first line of defense and has produced some of the only products worth owning in the world.
When Mary Shelly wrote "Frankenstein" she wrote in the preface "this book is about a monster doctor" who turned from a love of healing others to a love of money and fame. (Doug truly this is not meant to be about you brother)
So what did we do with this great moral story,we let a admitted woman hating movie director, beat senseless by his mother- Charles Laughton, who was arrested 3 times for molesting teenage boys twist the whole story upside down, into another tool for venting sickness, and who was the woman he had play "the bride of Frankenstein" ?
HIS ABUSED WIFE. just read what he did to her in her book.
if anyone wants to defend a broken sick system,that kills every day, so some heartless punk can make a fortune and they can say they have some friends in Washington fine.
OUR NEW MOTHER FIGURE
but for me, I just see murderers on both sides of congress and Obama care is just another pay off of campaign funds
Me, I will remember just what the good old book says-
The lion ( England) will cross the waters and rise as a eagle, even more evil then the lion.
I beg you all to stop being pawns of ether side and stand for life and love.
be a rebel.
I bet this post has a life span of less then ten minutes
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