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Post by ovidio on Feb 11, 2013 9:30:09 GMT -5
Good morning I Have a question my 2007 JohnWay 150cc starter motor was bad so I have not used it because I tried to start it by the kick start and it wont does some one tell me why is it? Ive seen these other scooter that they start with 2KICKS. BUT MINES WONT.IS IT THE CARB?, ONE TGING I KNOW IS THAT STATOR IS NOT GOOD BECAUSE WHEN YOU ACCELERATE THE LIGHT DOESNT SHINE AS IT SHOULD BE THATS MY THOUHGT SIX MONTHS AGO I CAHNGE the squere box thats on the front like a capacitor (dont know the name).thanks
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 3:07:42 GMT -5
hi fella
the square box with caps in it is the CDI
your egulator may be over heating now that some are filled with heaat retaining chaulk instead of heat dis placement epoxy.
you may want to replace your pick up off the stator, its cheap
what do you mean your start motor is bad, what does it do when you use electric start???
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Post by ovidio on Feb 14, 2013 8:21:21 GMT -5
I changed the rectifier regulator like 6 months ago. About the electric starter it was bad soi had to replace it.whats another way to diagnose if the stator is bad?
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Post by Rebel on Feb 14, 2013 18:46:38 GMT -5
Pulled this from a post by a guy called Sprocket on another forum. Things like alarm systems and remote starter are a continual drain on the battery, remove those if you have them. You need to measure AC voltages from the stator, measuring continuity doesn't tell much. Some stators are grounded and some float The only stator wires that have an bearing on the engine operation are the pick-up coil trigger wire and the high voltage to the CDI, usually red and black. The yellow and the white are involved in DC voltages like battery and lights... unplug them from the rectifier/regulator and you won't get those weird continuity readings... Check for spark when it doesn't hot start... could be something as simple as the spark plug boot they frequently go bad or loose their grip on the plug/reality
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Post by Rebel on Feb 14, 2013 20:53:06 GMT -5
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Feb 15, 2013 16:05:19 GMT -5
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Post by ovidio on Feb 15, 2013 16:05:19 GMT -5
I checked the voltage today , from the wire that come from the stator i unplugged it from the harness anf measured the white and the yellow,and iddling it gave me 19- 20 something v ac .i measured it in the acv mode in the multimeter, rev. it and it went up to 86 & up so that means that is good. right?. Then checked rhe battery to see how it was charging it gave me 13 to 17. If i rev it up. then cheked the red wire that comes out of the rectifier and gave 17 vdc iddling. next checked the wire harness that connects to the front healight the white wire and the yelloe gave some wierd measurements like 1.36 volts dc .What do you think of this readings Thanks
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Post by Rebel on Feb 16, 2013 0:17:54 GMT -5
Sounds OK to me, but I'm not expert on this.
Have to checked the pick up at the stator? They get loose sometimes. Have you got a good battery in this? Have you checked things like ground wires and connections? I assume the spark plug looks good. Your starter should start it up for you. You shouldn't have to use the kick start.
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Feb 16, 2013 19:27:05 GMT -5
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Post by ovidio on Feb 16, 2013 19:27:05 GMT -5
Today i was installing another muffler and the enricher which was bad so i replace it iwas trying to see why the front headlights did not turn bright when i accelerate the engine, so looking and investigating all of the sudden the lights turned very bright so i sayd there we go its fixed,and in a blik of an eye the shut off completely i checkedand ssw that the lighs where burned out . so went and checked the masurements of the batt. to see if it was charging and yljust got. a readding of 12.59 v, it didnt go up when i rev. it up.took it for a ride and measured it again and it gave me 17.69v .so i am thinking the regulator /rectifier is bad. The funny thing is that this regulator i got it like 8 months ago in the website parts fo scooter.com now i dont know if i should buy another one from them.do you know where they sell some good ones?
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Post by Rebel on Feb 16, 2013 23:25:45 GMT -5
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Post by ovidio on Feb 17, 2013 0:16:36 GMT -5
I measured.the resistance ohms from the R/R prongs red white (where the white wire goes and the redwire goes) and it gave me 6.93 ohms. red. yellow (where the red wire goes and yellow wire goes). and is sail OL .That equals to bad R/R right? . So is that on e-bay or. Scappy dogsand what is the brand? Do all gy6 scooter bring the same as long as its a 4 pin?( i mean the order or pattern the wire plugs into the R/R.
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Post by Rebel on Feb 17, 2013 1:31:13 GMT -5
Is it bad? I don't really know. Here is a page from the Tank 50-150 GY6 manual on checking the regulator;
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Post by ovidio on Feb 18, 2013 13:29:28 GMT -5
I think I found the problem; I tested for continuity on the 3 cables that come out of the Stator white , yellow and green(whith the negative cable disconected from the battery).And saw that all 3 cables have continuitywith each other. this means that the stator is shot righ?But the funny thing is that the stator when i measure the voltage the ac voltage is reeds as it where charging. Can it be charging and at the same time be bad if it has conyinuity on all 3 wires?this might be the problem that is causing my front headlights to be dim all the time..
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Post by Rebel on Feb 18, 2013 17:08:38 GMT -5
If it was shot I wouldn't think it would be showing a charge.
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Post by ovidio on Feb 19, 2013 9:47:12 GMT -5
But can it be that is going bad and thats why my front headlight is dim and wont get brigjt when i rev. up the.engine? Because i disconected every thing from the stator tested for continuity on the yellow,green ,and white and it had continuity.it is not supposed to have any continuity right?
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Post by ovidio on Feb 19, 2013 11:51:32 GMT -5
Alsi forgot to tell you that i also checked for continuity between the yellow, white from stator to the body frame and it did have continuity.(stator unplugged)
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