DIY Scooter Anchor AND Stolen Scooter

[sangrelx]

Ok sooo aside from the entire superior power sports debacle

The girlfriends scooter and only work transportation got stolen the other night at 9pm at night.... GO FIGURE

Today I ordered her a new scooter from someone I have heard is trust worthy Scootersus.com I have known and spoken to the owner often the past 3 years John Dikov

She liked a model he offered so we bought it today.. Now the rest of the story

Today we did the following
Bought concrete (3 bags quikrete fast setting)
PVC tubing in a wide U shape (keep reading)
4 pieces of Rebar
and Gravel

Drill 2 holes in the bottom of the U pipe for drainage
Dig hole 3 feet wide 3 feet deep
layer of gravel for drainage under the U pipe
Put pipe into hole on top of gravel
Bend 2 pieces of rebar into U shapes to make staples and hammer them down across the pipe
Pour some concrete in to secure the pipe and rebar staples
put the other 2 rebar pieces onto the top of the pipe in an X pattern
pour the rest of the concrete into the hole to about an inch from the top of the U Pipe
Let it set and when the concrete is done pull dirt back over the hole to make the pipes ground level

Your done... Homemade concrete anchor you can pass chain thats pretty thick through it.. we can easily pass at max one 5 inch chain through it
plus a industrial lock rated at 17,000 lb cut resistant and 8,000 lb pry resistant
solar powered motion sensor flood light and 24/7 recording camera on the driveway hooked to my DVR and viewable from online as well

mc.lastnightsdesigns.com:8080

I dont care who looks at it.. It only shows my driveway and the spot we just dug out

Now the PVC pipe is jointed pipe basically 4 elbows put together the joints are not sealed so the bottom section thats in the gravel can still seep water out and the main drain holes will allow water to drain. Concrete encases the u pipe all except the very bottom. So even if a thief brakes the piping its still a chain passing through a concrete block buried in the ground

if a thief hits the concrete with a hammer it has rebar reinforcing it..
thief tries to pull the chain out its being held back by a concrete block I am not sure how much quikrete weighs when its set I assume 3 x 50lbs plus water weight so its almost 200 lbs of weight holding it down

plus the front tire of a scooter will be parked right at it.. hard to swing a hammer with a scooter there

I am thinking the best way to do this is if a single scooter is parked there pull the scooter OVER the hole and tightly wrap the chain around the floorboard section... they cannot lift or move the scooter out and they cannot Hit the hole with a hammer..

What do you guys think our our solution...
Pictures below or at lastnightsdesigns.com/bike/anchor

Also bought 2 new BB/Pellet guns - 800FPS rifle and a 480fps Pistol
So if I actually CATCH someone out there I will be shooting a sort of NON lethal weapon.. I do have a 45 Pistol though if I decide to actually hurt them

[sangrelx]

[jmkjr72]

concrete when cured weighs about 27 lbs per cubic foot
3 60lb bags will give you about 1.5 cubic feet
unless you added some 3/4 chrushed stone to that crete mix even with the rebar it wont take much to bust it out
and i know quickcrete cliams its 4000 psi in there mix but just an fyi i have made a couple of test cyl of it and didnt even come any where near 4000 psi at 28 days
yep thats right it will take 28 to 56 days depending upon the temp for your crete to make strength
and if it gets to freezing in the next 3 or 4 days unless you are protecting the crete from freezing it will be junk
just so you know 1/2 of my job is consturtion site quailty control

[sangrelx]

idk... I hope that burying the top with the dirt so they cannot see how much concrete or how little is holding it down plus the sight of the chain wrapped around the floorboard and through the front tire and the flood light and camera looking them in the face.. I hope they walk away

we basically went from a simple scooter parked in the driveway with a steering column lock that was not even locked at the time. To a scooter anchored into the ground with concrete and large chains with camera and light on it.

We have lived here for about 3 years without issue until the other night and it all started with 2 new families moved in across the street... go figure never have we worried about our stuff being stolen outside.. now we gotta worry

[sangrelx]

Plus we are putting a 2 way pager alarm system on it.. if need be I will hook up a solar battery maintainer outside that it can be plugged into during the day to maintain the battery

[jmkjr72]

see i like living out in the country i dont have to worry about any of that
caught a guy in my garage one time
the cops that showed up were fighting over who was going to transport him
as he pissed his pants when he heard the action on the mossberg chambering a round

[sangrelx]

ok -- anyone else have ideas, thoughts, opinions... we don't have the luxury of living in the sticks with nobody around us.. we live in place that used to be calm and quiet.. that changed recently unfortunately ...

I do however own my home, cars, and everything else me and the girlfriend have.. I owe nobody money and have 0 debt. So I can say I am doing well aside from the current issues in the neighborhood. I want to keep it that way. Will be hard to do if people keep stealing our stuff. It gets expensive buying scooters

[justbuggin]

get the best chain you can afford boltcutters can snap most chain with ease

[Rebel]

Nothing will make it totally theft proof, you have made it harder to steal and that is a step in the right direction. I did a similar hing once but just took a post hole digger and dug a two foot deep hole filled it with ready mix and mad a similar rebar anchor to chain a couple Honda CT 90's down, did one for each f them.

John has a pretty good rep at Scootersrus. Hope it turns out much better for you.

[Rocketdog]

Mar 9, 2012 21:47:55 GMT -5 jmkjr72 said:

see i like living out in the country i dont have to worry about any of that
caught a guy in my garage one time
the cops that showed up were fighting over who was going to transport him
as he pissed his pants when he heard the action on the mossberg chambering a round

In TN you can't use deadly force just because someones stealing your stuff. However, if they have entered your home it is considered that they mean you harm even if they are unarmed.

JMK, a good lawyer friend of mine once told me to buy a few non lethal rounds and to make the first round in my 500 Mossberg non lethal. That way he could easily prove my intention not to kill, even though the felon was in my house. If it doesn't stop him then that's his problem. Make the others Buck Shot.

Here's a nice selection www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/12-gauge-lessthanlethal

I use this www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/cPath/120_259_208/products_id/2121
although the flash concussion stuff looks interesting.

RD

[terrilee]

lolheres what u do.

get good insurance--to pay for replacement.
take pics of VIN numbers
i live in a not bad crime area but slightly,
packages disappear from my porch all the time.

when i put up Chrissy's garage tent
i ran the heaviest chain i could find,
around the gas meter to inside the tent
then i have a smaller chain going through the
rear wheel.
o i also have a motion detector light and video camera,
on a 24 hr. loop, right next to the tent.

sure if u REALLY want it, u can have it, but its insured for more than its worth, the video will prob catch ur face
so then u will get arrested.

[sangrelx]

Thanks for the input guys..

The gun seen there is not lethal unless aimed at the correct spot... I also have a new 800fps rifle with scope lol

We do plan to use non lethal force on anyone we catch in the act or even messing with it..

I am going to look into replacement insurance of some sort and see what happens.. how much it is etc.. I mean where do you look for insurance on a 50cc scooter.. just enough to replace loss or theft..

[jmkjr72]

progressive
there policy also includes laibilty mine is about 60 a year

[terrilee]

im with geico
$8 a monthwhen u set up ur policy , just tell them agent
u wanna insure it for full replacement if stolen.

a 50cc scoot---might add $3-4-5 a month

dont bullcrap the insurance agent, to much
tell em a couple -3 hundred more than
buying price.

[bagga]

why would you tell a lie? that sounds like insurance fraud to me. you're going to get blue book value, nothing more if a vehicle is stolen. i doesn't matter what you paid for a vehicle.