1986 honda elite 150

[bwiener]

aquired scooter, hasn't been running for 10 yrs./ my problem is getting rear wheel to rotate/ took muffler and axle bolt off, but wheel won't come off to inspect/ has park lock on dash ?, what am i doing wrong

[Rebel]

Welcome to the forum

If it has rear drum brakes, try adjusting those and see if it will turn. If you don't have a manual for it, look here to download one;

scooterrebels.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=manualsreadonly&action=display&thread=1319

[bwiener]

thanks for manual info, i check it out, someone said wheel won't come off with park brake set but thats new to me

[Rebel]

I'm not aware of a parking brake, but that does not mean one does not exist there. I was just thinking the brake may be locked up tight and need to be closed up so it will let the wheel move.

[bwiener]

i just came in , the brake lock is when you push rear brake pedal and then pull up, it locks pedal down, i have taken rear cable off but but lever to drum won't move and i can't figure out how to get in to free since wheel will not come off

[jmkjr72]

yeah rear wheels with intergratd drums wont come off with the brakes on as the shoes expand to drag on the drum

try to take a dead blow mallet and tap on the drum part of the rim and see what happens

it proably sat with the brake lock on and every thing inside is rusted up
some times you can get lucky and when you hammer on it the old shoes break up and you can get the drum off

[sailorman]

I have a 87 honda elite 150, if you press down on rear break peadle to the floor at the same time press the brake release button to reset the brake cable lever, you may have to pump the rear brake peadle with you hand to get it to release. Once done then readjust rear tension on back wheel.

[Rebel]

Oct 14, 2011 3:00:17 GMT -5 bwiener said:

i just came in , the brake lock is when you push rear brake pedal and then pull up, it locks pedal down, i have taken rear cable off but but lever to drum won't move and i can't figure out how to get in to free since wheel will not come off

After sitting for ten years it might be frozen with corrosion. You may wind up soaking it with penetrating oil, the linkage and arm you are referring to.

Check the suggestions from sailorman since he owns one.

[bwiener]

i brought my map gas torch from work and heated rear brake cam and drum. put a 6 inch pipe wrench on cam and tapped, cam moved enough to free wheel slightly, several dead blows and the wheel is off , yeah, cam and springs rusted badly inside. pads are still on drum not assy

[Rocketdog]

Careful with a torch on aluminium. If the piston is frozen, I suggest Marvel Mystery Oil. Let it soak.

RD

[Rebel]

Heat on aluminum is very tricky. Aluminum does not get red when it is hot, it just melts and then you are in trouble, sometimes it will just vaporize. You can warm it but try not to get it hot.

I was playing with an aluminum can once a long time ago, it seemed to just burn, gave off a gas that got me choked up long enough to be concerned that I was going to survive.

[bwiener]

i know i just heated cam direct with pipe wrench on just long enough to move slightly, no damage to cam splines

[bwiener]

now have cam cleaned and put anitseize on,rear brake cable ok, operating fine, fixed shoes, and of course tubeless tires broke bead, strapped, aired and set bead, deflated, slimed, reinflated, holding air// next is gas tank, carb, and engine (cylinder has been soaking in mystery oil in case of stuck rings etc)throttle cabel frozen and soaking in diesel fuel but worst case i can operate that manually to try and start engine when i reach that point/ about future posts i will look for related threads or should i start new or both///and again thanks for all help

[Rebel]

It is all the same restoration project, you can keep it all here if you like. Or start another thread for the different systems you are working on if you think it would get confusing.

Pictures are always nice.