Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 4:52:59 GMT -5
I reposted this so i could book mark it
I have no comments about this post not already said, but what goes un finished is all the folks who got hurt proving it.
boric acid is not a acid, it is a ester, it was named acid as a way to name the different by products of boron, one had a pf of 5.6, they named it the Acid by product, i have put pure boric in my mouth, it was like baby powder.
facts are these if you want your bike to save gas, go faster, and run cooler, put a round teaspoon of boric ester (acid) in you crank case.
I got the HUMCO brand at CVS
THIS THREAD IS FOR FOLKS USING BORON ESTER FOR THE FIRST TIME OR FOR THE SECOND TIME TO THEIR GY6 MOTOR
WELL SCOOTERIST ALL
We have moved past the unknown frontier of using boric acid.
We have come to see boric acid is not really a acid but a ester of boron.
We have seen that it is the secret of Mobil 1 oil and other oils, but they use a inferior kind of boron to protect themselves from copyright infringement. so our home made is better the mobil1.
We have seen much faster bikes WITH LESS GAS USE.
Cooler temperatures if we don't high rev.
Less motor vibration.
Less strain on battery and start motor at start up with higher idle speeds.
And attained the quietest engines per single piston on the road.
As EPA, DOE and DOT said we would, with out damage.
From the rough reports, if we had used nano boric we would have a even 20 percent greater gain, but for most of us, 60 percent gain for only 8 cents was great enough, and for me one, it will stay that way.
Now we gotta change that oil----or do we, from what i read all over at the very least you can use boric oil twice as long,
The reports are fuzzy on twice as long usage, but boric is known to reduce acid sulpher build up,
because it SLOWS break down of oil from acids.
I am right now using "Dollar" store Premium oil/Castrol blend snyth with 2 level tablespoons humco boric, this is the second time I have used boric.
I will again use the dollar store premium/castro blend mix,
1 Half qt Dino and 1 half qt castrol snyth oil
I will use 50/50 dino/snyth mix because despite snyth being a better oil, a dino/snyth gave me better performance then snyth alone
DO NOT USE AMSOIL OIL.
HOW TO DISSOLVE BORIC ACID
NEVER DISSOLVE BORIC WITH A CHEMICAL SOLVENT OR WATER
The best and only way to dissolve boric is with the heat of your engine,
Boric acid is exactly like candle wax, with heat it becomes a liquid.
THE TABLESPOON OF WATER CREATES A CHEMICAL REACTION TO ADHERE IT TO METAL
Solvents will destroy your seals
put 1 level tablespoons and 1 level level tablespoon water in oil bottle ,,,,shake room temp container for 2-3 minutes add not more then 750 ml to case.
CHANGING OUT BORON OIL
run the old oil hot,
put a pan with ice cubes to cool oil in it under the bike.
remove oil fill plug-with long wrench as to not burn fingers remove drain plug and let drop into pan and let bike drain.
after drain, put kill switch on and turn engine over a few seconds to move out excess oil.
OPTIONAL
With bike tilted towards oil drain, with a reversed vacume or carb cleaner straw secured so it can not fall into oil inlet, spray deep into oil fill to remove oil on bottom of case, this will blow/push out a lot of grunge that was there for a long long time-BORIC OIL OR NON BORIC OIL TO BLOW THAT SLUDGE OUT IS A GOOD IDEA. BUT SOME THINK CARB SPRAY WILL HURT SEALS, computer spray will work too.
as drained oil cools pull drain plug up from old oil and clean filter screen and plug, re install just tight, don't over tighten.
To 750 ML of dino/snyth oil with 2 level tablespoons boric and a tablespoon water, shake like heck 5 mins, install oil and ride a full thirty mins.
I have said these things FOR CHANGING OUT FIRST BORON OIL USED, TO SECOND NEW QT. because it worked for me
I will add to or subtract from this thread as more folks add info.
PS nice thing about boron oil is the dam drain plug turns in easier then with non boron oil.
SIMPLE RECIPE
ADD 1 LEVEL TABLE SPOON BORIC TO 50/50 MIX BLEND OF DINO/CASTROL SNYTH OIL AND RIDE BIKE A 1/2 HOUR
THE USE OF BORON OIL IN SCOOTERS DID NOT COME EASY, MANY FOLKS RISKED THEIR ENGINES AND THEIR REPUTATIONS TO BRING THIS WONDER TO THE WORLD OF SCOOTERS AND THOSE FOLKS WHO RIDE THEM.
A REAL ROUND OF THANKS MUST ECHO DOWN THE BACK ROADS AND CITY STREETS OF SCOOTER-DOM FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO HELPED BIRTH THE WAY OF THIS IDEA AND GIFT FROM THE MOTHER EARTH.
THANK YOU
Senior Scientist Ali Erdemir of ARGONNE LABS
www.anl.gov/Media_Center/Argonne_News/2007/News_070815.pdf
kulikow.com/Publications/Patents/....t%205431830.htm
www.topspindesign.com/tw/media/document/tsd_oil_additive_test_report.pdf
MAINE PEACE SCOOTERS AND QUALITY PARTS mainelyscooters.com
I have no comments about this post not already said, but what goes un finished is all the folks who got hurt proving it.
boric acid is not a acid, it is a ester, it was named acid as a way to name the different by products of boron, one had a pf of 5.6, they named it the Acid by product, i have put pure boric in my mouth, it was like baby powder.
facts are these if you want your bike to save gas, go faster, and run cooler, put a round teaspoon of boric ester (acid) in you crank case.
I got the HUMCO brand at CVS
THIS THREAD IS FOR FOLKS USING BORON ESTER FOR THE FIRST TIME OR FOR THE SECOND TIME TO THEIR GY6 MOTOR
WELL SCOOTERIST ALL
We have moved past the unknown frontier of using boric acid.
We have come to see boric acid is not really a acid but a ester of boron.
We have seen that it is the secret of Mobil 1 oil and other oils, but they use a inferior kind of boron to protect themselves from copyright infringement. so our home made is better the mobil1.
We have seen much faster bikes WITH LESS GAS USE.
Cooler temperatures if we don't high rev.
Less motor vibration.
Less strain on battery and start motor at start up with higher idle speeds.
And attained the quietest engines per single piston on the road.
As EPA, DOE and DOT said we would, with out damage.
From the rough reports, if we had used nano boric we would have a even 20 percent greater gain, but for most of us, 60 percent gain for only 8 cents was great enough, and for me one, it will stay that way.
Now we gotta change that oil----or do we, from what i read all over at the very least you can use boric oil twice as long,
The reports are fuzzy on twice as long usage, but boric is known to reduce acid sulpher build up,
because it SLOWS break down of oil from acids.
I am right now using "Dollar" store Premium oil/Castrol blend snyth with 2 level tablespoons humco boric, this is the second time I have used boric.
I will again use the dollar store premium/castro blend mix,
1 Half qt Dino and 1 half qt castrol snyth oil
I will use 50/50 dino/snyth mix because despite snyth being a better oil, a dino/snyth gave me better performance then snyth alone
DO NOT USE AMSOIL OIL.
HOW TO DISSOLVE BORIC ACID
NEVER DISSOLVE BORIC WITH A CHEMICAL SOLVENT OR WATER
The best and only way to dissolve boric is with the heat of your engine,
Boric acid is exactly like candle wax, with heat it becomes a liquid.
THE TABLESPOON OF WATER CREATES A CHEMICAL REACTION TO ADHERE IT TO METAL
Solvents will destroy your seals
put 1 level tablespoons and 1 level level tablespoon water in oil bottle ,,,,shake room temp container for 2-3 minutes add not more then 750 ml to case.
CHANGING OUT BORON OIL
run the old oil hot,
put a pan with ice cubes to cool oil in it under the bike.
remove oil fill plug-with long wrench as to not burn fingers remove drain plug and let drop into pan and let bike drain.
after drain, put kill switch on and turn engine over a few seconds to move out excess oil.
OPTIONAL
With bike tilted towards oil drain, with a reversed vacume or carb cleaner straw secured so it can not fall into oil inlet, spray deep into oil fill to remove oil on bottom of case, this will blow/push out a lot of grunge that was there for a long long time-BORIC OIL OR NON BORIC OIL TO BLOW THAT SLUDGE OUT IS A GOOD IDEA. BUT SOME THINK CARB SPRAY WILL HURT SEALS, computer spray will work too.
as drained oil cools pull drain plug up from old oil and clean filter screen and plug, re install just tight, don't over tighten.
To 750 ML of dino/snyth oil with 2 level tablespoons boric and a tablespoon water, shake like heck 5 mins, install oil and ride a full thirty mins.
I have said these things FOR CHANGING OUT FIRST BORON OIL USED, TO SECOND NEW QT. because it worked for me
I will add to or subtract from this thread as more folks add info.
PS nice thing about boron oil is the dam drain plug turns in easier then with non boron oil.
SIMPLE RECIPE
ADD 1 LEVEL TABLE SPOON BORIC TO 50/50 MIX BLEND OF DINO/CASTROL SNYTH OIL AND RIDE BIKE A 1/2 HOUR
THE USE OF BORON OIL IN SCOOTERS DID NOT COME EASY, MANY FOLKS RISKED THEIR ENGINES AND THEIR REPUTATIONS TO BRING THIS WONDER TO THE WORLD OF SCOOTERS AND THOSE FOLKS WHO RIDE THEM.
A REAL ROUND OF THANKS MUST ECHO DOWN THE BACK ROADS AND CITY STREETS OF SCOOTER-DOM FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO HELPED BIRTH THE WAY OF THIS IDEA AND GIFT FROM THE MOTHER EARTH.
THANK YOU
Senior Scientist Ali Erdemir of ARGONNE LABS
www.anl.gov/Media_Center/Argonne_News/2007/News_070815.pdf
kulikow.com/Publications/Patents/....t%205431830.htm
www.topspindesign.com/tw/media/document/tsd_oil_additive_test_report.pdf
MAINE PEACE SCOOTERS AND QUALITY PARTS mainelyscooters.com